In the first official episode of Zodiak Presents podcast we meet choreographer Johanna Nuutinen, whose work OPIA is online between the 1st -15th April in the program of Zodiak Center for New Dance. While the work available online is adopted for the camera, Mira Kautto and Tuomas Laitinen from Esitysradio experienced a preview of the piece onsite. They discuss the experience and the artistic process with Nuutinen and researcher Jaana Parviainen. The discussion is in Finnish. Zodiak Presents is a podcast published by Zodiak Center for New Dance; the first episodes are done in collaboration with Esitysradio.